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Old Jan 04, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08   #1
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Last night before going to bed, I pancaked 6 Charr groups. Then I pulled them to the shrine. Watched them kill my fellow Ascalonians, and again committed suicide so I could start the repeated suicide requirement for LDoA.

When I got up this morning - 4 of the individual Charr (all from the same group of casters in the 4th group pulled) had bothered to level to 15. Some of the Charr had bothered to level to 10. Most were still 8th level. Now that I have killed the 4 Charr that bothered to level I suppose I can wait to be thrown off line by ANet for being on too long while I wait for the next 3-4 to chose to level up.

The point to the idiocy is for them to level. If they are not leveling then it is broke. Since, the ones who leveled were casters and not the ones closest to me, it is not a proximity issue. In point of fact, the ones who leveled were specifically the Farthest from me. But ofcourse, none of this would be an issue if we were not supposed to be paying gate RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs for access to the enemy (How many marines are charging fellow marines for access to the Taliban?) so we can perform the repetitive totally lacking in entertainment suicide for 4-6 levels (3-6 months).

The least they can do if they insist on this stupid crap is have it work.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28   #2
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stop whining for crap..that is in itself crap concepted and broken and requires an effort that stands in absolutely no sense to the name of the title itself

When it didn't worked..how U hoped it should.. than you simple had BAD LUCK
Broken would be. ..when death leveling WOULD NOT WORK AT ALL ANYMORE.

But I personally would call that not broken..I would call that a BUG FIX and the start of giving that title hopefully a change in its crap concept itself

my 2 cents
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 02:33 PM // 14:33   #3
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stop whining for crap..that is in itself crap concepted and broken and requires an effort that stands in absolutely no sense to the name of the title itself

When it didn't worked..how U hoped it should.. than you simple had BAD LUCK
Broken would be. ..when death leveling WOULD NOT WORK AT ALL ANYMORE.

But I personally would call that not broken..I would call that a BUG FIX and the start of giving that title hopefully a change in its crap concept itself

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Don't confuse rage with whine. I hate this. I hate and loathe all persons that support it. This will never Ever end.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14   #4
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Thought you knew this but here it is the expirence the monsters earn is not shared they gain the exp for killing you which ever one killed you is the one that gains the exp this has been like this forever and nearly everyone knows about it when you death lvl you have to pull 2-4 mosters not 3-4 groups.

you are the idiot here not the mosters.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #5
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lol Areanet needs to fix the bug that allows them to level in the first place all it is is an explot.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 03:21 PM // 15:21   #6
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It's an annoiyng fact and I don't fully understand it.

I wake up to lvl20 Charr and some lvl8s. All of which deal damage to me and are well within the aggro bubble. There's some sort of strange coding when it comes to XP distribution.

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lol Areanet needs to fix the bug that allows them to level in the first place all it is is an explot.
They did. Then they invented the LDOA title and had to reintroduce it so people could earn the title.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22   #7
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death leveling was a exploit from day 1, anet choose not to fix it and add a title for it. when messing with exploits they don't always work how you wish they would because they are a by product of many little things, not just its own code.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24   #8
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Don't confuse rage with whine. I hate this. I hate and loathe all persons that support it. This will never Ever end.
I'm not. That is a whine.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32   #9
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Here's an example of two different levels of Charr. All of which have participated in my deaths for the same length of time.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 03:46 PM // 15:46   #10
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Maybe you just didn't set it up right?

Also what is the suggestion you are making?
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #11
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There's actually some documentation about this on the Presearing site (www.presearing.com). Experience is shared among all creatures, but not equally. Typically, whatever group killed you first (that's how you pancake in the first place) will get 2/3 or so of the experience from your death, and all other groups will get progressively less in proportion to the number of times they killed you before the start of the DeathLevel.

From the amount of DeathLeveling I've done, I've seen two different trends. One group gets most if not all, with the other groups leveling once while the first group is sitting at Level 16 or so. The other trend is that one group gets the 2/3, and the second group gets 1/3, and the third group (if there is one) get nearly nothing.

In summary, don't pancake more than three groups, you end up spreading the XP too thin for your purposes.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09   #12
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lol Areanet needs to fix the bug that allows them to level in the first place all it is is an explot.
I agree fully with this statement and all intent behind it. Plus I'd like to add that it's an exploit that Arenanet while too lazy to fix it, instead chose to make a title that required it's use so people could exploit it even more! Good job arenanet! Good freakin job.


that be my input
*forkkrofforkkrofforkkrof*
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04   #13
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Don't confuse rage with whine. I hate this. I hate and loathe all persons that support it. This will never Ever end.
Then why do it?
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44   #14
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Don't confuse rage with whine. I hate this. I hate and loathe all persons that support it. This will never Ever end.
I'm not. That is a whine.
Well, I wasn’t aware Phoenix Tears was using two sign-ins to post, . And yes you are. There is noting plaintive, high pitched, and protracted in my statements. A whine requires all three of these conditions. For a complaint to be a whine it must be uttered in a plaintive tone. This is not the case. As I said, do not confuse rage with whine.

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Don't confuse rage with whine. I hate this. I hate and loathe all persons that support it. This will never Ever end.
Then why do it?
Because the title is appropriate to the persona - something I do not expect you to bother to comprehend given your previous statements.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34   #15
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I hate this. I hate and loathe all persons that support it. This will never Ever end.
Really, that does sound like whining to me. You started something, and now you are complaining about having to finish it = whining. And since it is text , not speech, i can connect any sort of voice i like with it. Yep, sounds like a high pitched crying voice to me.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37   #16
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It's a game. Games are for fun. If you hate getting this title, don't get it. If you feel you need it for your "Persona" that is your choice and you have to do it the same way others have done it before you.

If you want the title to impress people, don't bother. Titles are for your own enjoyment. No one else cares...
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30   #17
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If you understood the difference between a want and a need, a game and life, and/or a choice or a forced action, you'd realize you are wrong.

If I hate something, I don't do it. If I HAVE to do it, then I deal with it. Fitz, you do not HAVE to get this title, but if you CHOOSE to get this title, you have to deal with it.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32   #18
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If you understood the difference between a want and a need, a game and life, and/or a choice or a forced action, you'd realize you are wrong.

If I hate something, I don't do it. If I HAVE to do it, then I deal with it. Fitz, you do not HAVE to get this title, but if you CHOOSE to get this title, you have to deal with it.
Amen.

Why must things like this cause so much grief to people unaffected by it?
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #19
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lol Areanet needs to fix the bug that allows them to level in the first place all it is is an explot.

It was put back in the game for a reason....
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Old Jan 05, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09   #20
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What they should do is either get rid of the title entirely or make it so that it's easier to get. It's downright stupid how it's set up now...death leveling for months on end in starter armor with only you in the party...ridiculous.
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